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Asked: May 18, 20262026-05-18T20:08:48+00:00 2026-05-18T20:08:48+00:00

Just ran into an issue with a has_many :through association and after/before-destroy callbacks not

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Just ran into an issue with a has_many :through association and after/before-destroy callbacks not being triggered.

Say, I have users, groups, and an intermediate relation called membership.
I have a form that allows users to be enrolled into groups by creating a new membership record when they check off associated checkboxes. Basically an array of group_ids.

Looks something like this:

Which group would you like to join? (check all that apply)
[] Group A
[] Group B
[] Group C

And I wish to record actions such as joining a group or leaving a group to activity log table and do some other less important thigns.

I have the following defined:

class Group < AR::Base
  has_many :memberships
  has_many :users, :through => :memberships
end

class Membership < AR::Base
  belongs_to :user
  belongs_to :group

  after_create :log_event_to_audit_table
  after_destroy :log_event_to_audit_table

end

class User < ActiveRecord::Base
  has_many :memberships
  has_many :groups, :through => :memberships

  attr_accessible :group_ids   # enables mass-assignment
end

When a new membership record is created the after_create is run as expected. However, the after_destroy does not get triggered!

After google-ing and read up the docs I discovered the reason why:

“Automatic deletion of join models is
direct, no destroy callbacks are
triggered” – from Ruby Guides.

Hmmmmmm…

So the join model’s (in this case Membership’s) destroy callbacks are not being triggered. Well that’s a downer. Any reason as to why?

So my question what is the best way to work around this issue?
Should I define my own membership_ids= method in User model that calls membership.destroy directly?

Open to any suggestions about the best practices in such a scenario.

Thanks!

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    2026-05-18T20:08:48+00:00Added an answer on May 18, 2026 at 8:08 pm

    After carefully examining the API docs, it turns out has_many and has_and_belongs_to_many (“HABTM”) have a few options just for this case:

    • before_add
    • after_add
    • before_remove
    • after_remove

    class User < ActiveRecord::Base
      has_many :groups, :through => :memberships, :after_remove => :your_custom_method
    end
    

    Judging by how many responses I got, this must not be a very well documented/used feature.

    Just noting it here for myself and others who may stumble like I did.

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