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Asked: May 14, 20262026-05-14T02:27:27+00:00 2026-05-14T02:27:27+00:00

After being stumped by an earlier quesiton: SO google-analytics-domain-data-without-filtering I’ve been experimenting with a

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After being stumped by an earlier quesiton: SO google-analytics-domain-data-without-filtering

I’ve been experimenting with a very basic analytics system of my own.

MySQL table:

hit_id, subsite_id, timestamp, ip, url

The subsite_id let’s me drill down to a folder (as explained in the previous question).

I can now get the following metrics:

  • Page Views – Grouped by subsite_id and date
  • Unique Page Views – Grouped by subsite_id, date, url, IP (not nesecarily how Google does it!)
  • The usual “most visited page”, “likely time to visit” etc etc.

I’ve now compared my data to that in Google Analytics and found that Google has lower values each metric. Ie, my own setup is counting more hits than Google.

So I’ve started discounting IP’s from various web crawlers, Google, Yahoo & Dotbot so far.

Short Questions:

  1. Is it worth me collating a list of
    all major crawlers to discount, is
    any list likely to change regularly?
  2. Are there any other obvious filters
    that Google will be applying to GA
    data?
  3. What other data would you
    collect that might be of use further
    down the line?
  4. What variables does
    Google use to work out entrance
    search keywords to a site?

The data is only going to used internally for our own “subsite ranking system”, but I would like to show my users some basic data (page views, most popular pages etc) for their reference.

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    2026-05-14T02:27:28+00:00Added an answer on May 14, 2026 at 2:27 am

    Under-reporting by the client-side rig versus server-side eems to be the usual outcome of these comparisons.

    Here’s how i’ve tried to reconcile the disparity when i’ve come across these studies:

    Data Sources recorded in server-side collection but not client-side:

    • hits from
      mobile devices that don’t support javascript (this is probably a
      significant source of disparity
      between the two collection
      techniques–e.g., Jan 07 comScore
      study
      showed that 19% of UK
      Internet Users access the Internet
      from a mobile device)

    • hits from spiders, bots (which you
      mentioned already)

    Data Sources/Events that server-side collection tends to record with greater fidelity (much less false negatives) compared with javascript page tags:

    • hits from users behind firewalls,
      particularly corporate
      firewalls–firewalls block page tag,
      plus some are configured to
      reject/delete cookies.

    • hits from users who have disabled
      javascript in their browsers
      –five
      percent, according to the W3C
      Data

    • hits from users who exit the page
      before it loads
      . Again, this is a
      larger source of disparity than you
      might think. The most
      frequently-cited study to
      support this was conducted by Stone
      Temple Consulting, which showed that
      the difference in unique visitor
      traffic between two identical sites
      configured with the same web
      analytics system, but which differed
      only in that the js tracking code was
      placed at the bottom of the pages
      in one site, and at the top of
      the pages in the other–was 4.3%


    FWIW, here’s the scheme i use to remove/identify spiders, bots, etc.:

    1. monitor requests for our
      robots.txt file: then of course filter all other requests from same
      IP address + user agent (not all
      spiders will request robots.txt of
      course, but with miniscule error,
      any request for this resource is
      probably a bot.

    2. compare user agent and ip addresses
      against published lists: iab.net and
      user-agents.org publish the two
      lists that seem to be the most
      widely used for this purpose

    3. pattern analysis: nothing sophisticated here;
      we look at (i) page views as a
      function of time (i.e., clicking a
      lot of links with 200 msec on each
      page is probative); (ii) the path by
      which the ‘user’ traverses out Site,
      is it systematic and complete or
      nearly so (like following a
      back-tracking algorithm); and (iii)
      precisely-timed visits (e.g., 3 am
      each day).

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