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Asked: May 13, 20262026-05-13T19:57:18+00:00 2026-05-13T19:57:18+00:00

Background Information Ordinal position notation, AKA ordinals, is column shorthand based on the column

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Ordinal position notation, AKA ordinals, is column shorthand based on the column order in the list of columns in the SELECT clause, instead of either the column name or column alias. Commonly supported in the ORDER BY clause, some databases (MySQL 3.23+, PostgreSQL 8.0+) support the syntax for the GROUP BY clause as well.

Here’s an example of using Ordinals:

GROUP BY 1, 2
ORDER BY 1, 2

It’s not good to use because it makes the query brittle – if the column order changes, the ordinals need to be updated or your query won’t return what you thought it would. Very likely, you’d get an error when used in the GROUP BY if the columns at those locations are wrapped within aggregates…

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The only benefit I can think of is less data to send over the wire, if you aren’t using stored procedures or functions (which make ordinal usage moot, to me anyways). Are there any other benefits I’m missing?

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    2026-05-13T19:57:18+00:00Added an answer on May 13, 2026 at 7:57 pm

    I’d use it:

    • If you love troubleshooting
    • Creating adhoc queries without intellisense

    There is no upside.

    SQL Server only supports in the ORDER BY anyway. Anywhere else it’s an expression to be evaluated.

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