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Asked: May 10, 20262026-05-10T17:55:41+00:00 2026-05-10T17:55:41+00:00

How would you begin improving on a really bad system? Let me explain what

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How would you begin improving on a really bad system?

Let me explain what I mean before you recommend creating unit tests and refactoring. I could use those techniques but that would be pointless in this case.

Actually the system is so broken it doesn’t do what it needs to do.

For example the system should count how many messages it sends. It mostly works but in some cases it ‘forgets’ to increase the value of the message counter. The problem is that so many other modules with their own workarounds build upon this counter that if I correct the counter the system as a whole would become worse than it is currently. The solution could be to modify all the modules and remove their own corrections, but with 150+ modules that would require so much coordination that I can not afford it.

Even worse, there are some problems that has workarounds not in the system itself, but in people’s head. For example the system can not represent more than four related messages in one message group. Some services would require five messages grouped together. The accounting department knows about this limitation and every time they count the messages for these services, they count the message groups and multiply it by 5/4 to get the correct number of the messages. There is absolutely no documentation about these deviations and nobody knows how many such things are present in the system now.

So how would you begin working on improving this system? What strategy would you follow?

A few additional things: I’m a one-men-army working on this so it is not an acceptable answer to hire enough men and redesign/refactor the system. And in a few weeks or months I really should show some visible progression so it is not an option either to do the refactoring myself in a couple of years.

Some technical details: the system is written in Java and PHP but I don’t think that really matters. There are two databases behind it, an Oracle and a PostgreSQL one. Besides the flaws mentioned before the code itself is smells too, it is really badly written and documented.

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The counter issue is not a synchronization problem. The counter++ statements are added to some modules, and are not added to some other modules. A quick and dirty fix is to add them where they are missing. The long solution is to make it kind of an aspect for the modules that need it, making impossible to forget it later. I have no problems with fixing things like this, but if I would make this change I would break over 10 other modules.

Update:

I accepted Greg D’s answer. Even if I like Adam Bellaire’s more, it wouldn’t help me to know what would be ideal to know. Thanks all for the answers.

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  1. 2026-05-10T17:55:42+00:00Added an answer on May 10, 2026 at 5:55 pm
    1. Put out the fires. If there are any issues of critical priority, whatever they are, you’ve got to handle them first. Hack it in if you must, with a smelly codebase it’s ok. You know you’ll improve it going forward. This is your sales technique targeted at whomever you’re reporting to.
    2. Pick some low-hanging fruit. I assume you’re relatively new to this particular software and that you were re-tasked to deal with it. Find some apparently easy problems in a related subsystem of the code that shouldn’t take more than a day or two to resolve apiece, and fix them. This may involve refactoring, or it may not. The goal is to familiarize yourself with the system and with the style of the original author. You may not get really lucky (One of the two incompetents who worked on my system before me always post-fixed his comments with four punctuation marks instead of one, which made it very easy to distinguish who wrote the particular segment of code.), but you’ll develop insight into the author’s weaknesses so you know what to look out for. Extensive, tight coupling with global state vs poor understanding of language tools, for example.
    3. Set a big goal. If your experience parallels mine, you’ll find yourself in a particular bit of spaghetti code more and more often as you perform the prior step. This is the first knot you need to untangle. With the experience you’ve gained understanding the component and knowledge about what the original author likely did wrong (and thus, what you need to watch out for), you can start envisioning a better model for this subset of the system. Don’t worry if you still have to maintain some messy interfaces to maintain functionality, just take it one step at a time.

    Lather, rinse, repeat! 🙂

    Given time, consider adding unit tests for your new model one level underneath your interfaces with the rest of the system. Don’t engrave the bad interfaces in code via tests that use them, you’ll be changing them in a future iteration.

    Addressing the particular issues you mention:

    When you run into a situation that users are working around manually, talk with the users about changing it. Verify that they’ll accept the change if you provide it before sinking the time into it. If they don’t want the change, your job is to maintain the broken behavior.

    When you run into a buggy component that multiple other components have worked around, I espouse a parallel component technique. Create a counter that works how the existing one should work. Provide a similar (or, if practical, identical) interface and slide the new component into the codebase. When you touch external components that work around the broken one, try to replace the old component with the new one. Similar interfaces ease porting of the code, and the old component is still around if the new one fails. Don’t remove the old component until you can.

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