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Asked: May 30, 20262026-05-30T13:54:21+00:00 2026-05-30T13:54:21+00:00

I am trying to write a generic document indexer from a bunch of documents

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I am trying to write a generic document indexer from a bunch of documents with different encodings in python. I would like to know if it is possible to read all of my documents (that are encoded with utf-8,ISO8859-xx and windows-12xx) with utf-8 without character loss?

The reading part is as follows:

fin=codecs.open(doc_name, "r","utf-8");

doc_content=fin.read()
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    2026-05-30T13:54:23+00:00Added an answer on May 30, 2026 at 1:54 pm

    I’m going to rephrase your question slightly. I believe you are asking, “can I open a document and read it as if it were UTF-8, provided that it is actually intended to be ISO8869-xx or Windows-12xx, without loss?”. This is what the Python code you’ve posted attempts to do.

    The answer to that question is no. The Python code you posted will mangle the documents if they contain any characters above ordinal 127. This is because the “codepages” use the numbers from 128 to 255 to represent one character each, where UTF-8 uses that number range to proxy multibyte characters. So, each character in your document which is not in ASCII will be either interpreted as an invalid string or will be combined with the succeeding byte(s) to form a single UTF-8 codepoint, if you incorrectly parse the file as UTF-8.

    As a concrete example, say your document is in Windows-1252. It contains the byte sequence 0xC3 0xAE, or “î” (A-tilde, registered trademark sign). In UTF-8, that same byte sequence represents one character, “ï” (small ‘i’ with diaresis). In Windows-874, that same sequence would be “รฎ”. These are rather different strings – a moral insult could become an invitation to play chess, or vice versa. Meaning is lost.

    Now, for a slightly different question – “can I losslessly convert my files from their current encoding to UTF-8?” or, “can I represent all the data from the current files as a UTF-8 bytestream?”. The answer to these questions is (modulo a few fuzzy bits) yes. Unicode is designed to have a codepoint for every ideoglyph in any previously existing codepage, and by and large has succeeded in this goal. There are a few rough edges, but you will likely be well-served by using Unicode as your common interchange format (and UTF-8 is a good choice for a representation thereof).

    However, to effect the conversion, you must already know and state the format in which the files exist as they are being read. Otherwise Python will incorrectly deal with non-ASCII characters and you will badly damage your text (irreparably, in fact, if you discard either the invalid-in-UTF8 sequences or the origin of a particular wrongly-converted byte range).

    In the event that the text is all, 100% ASCII, you can open it as UTF-8 without a problem, as the first 127 codepoints are shared between the two representations.

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