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Asked: May 27, 20262026-05-27T23:23:45+00:00 2026-05-27T23:23:45+00:00

I am trying to write a recursive function within a class, but have some

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I am trying to write a recursive function within a class, but have some trouble using an object var as a method argument:

class nonsense(object):
  def __init__(self, val):
    self.val = val
  def factorial(self, n=self.val):
    if n<=1: return 1
    return n*self.factorial(n=n-1)

The code above generates the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "<stdin>", line 4, in nonsense
NameError: name 'self' is not defined

But if I don’t refer to self.val, the error disappears, although having to specify n is redundant:

class nonsense(object):
  def __init__(self, val):
    self.val = val
  def factorial(self, n):
    if n<=1: return 1
    return n*self.factorial(n=n-1)

What is the right way of doing this?

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    2026-05-27T23:23:46+00:00Added an answer on May 27, 2026 at 11:23 pm

    As you have discovered, you cannot have self.xxx in the header — rather have None and then correct in the body:

    def factorial(self, n=None):
        if n is None: n = self.val
        if n<=1: return 1
        return n*self.factorial(n=n-1)
    

    The reason is that when the class object is being created there is no self; besides globals(), the only names defined when Python gets to factorial are __module__, and __init__.

    As an experiment to prove this to yourself, try this:

    class TestClassCreation(object):
        print("Started creating class")
        print("names so far: %s" % vars())
    
        def __init__(self):
            pass
        print("now we have %s" % vars())
    
        def noop(self, default=None):
            print("this gets run when noop is called")
        print("and now have %s" % vars())
        print()
    
        print("and now we'll fail...")
        def failure(self, some_arg=self.noop):
            pass
        print("we never get here...")
    
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