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Asked: May 14, 20262026-05-14T16:53:42+00:00 2026-05-14T16:53:42+00:00

I am working on a project that involves Spring Security ACL and I came

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I am working on a project that involves Spring Security ACL and I came across the create permission BasePermission.CREATE. Would someone please explain how this is supposed to work or what it allows someone to do?

It is my understanding that each object has an acl, and each acl has many ace’s, and each ace has an sid and a permission. How can you grant permission on an object to create it, if it must be created in order to attach the acl to it?

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    2026-05-14T16:53:42+00:00Added an answer on May 14, 2026 at 4:53 pm

    Spring security grants permissions on domain objects indirectly via the ObjectIdentity interface.

    As you mention, by far the usual case is that you create or obtain the domain object first, and then construct a ObjectIdentityImpl for the domain object:

    MyDomainObject secured = new MyDomainObject();
    ObjectIdentity securedIdentity = new ObjectIdentityImpl(secured);
    

    You then use the ObjectIdentity instance to retrieve the ACL using the spring security framework.

    However, this is not the only way to use object identity. You can pass a reference to objectIdentity that is not the actual business object, but has some means of identifying it, if it were created.

    For example, imagine we wanted to secure files. We could create ObjectItentity with a java.io.File instance that is being secured. The File object that is in the identity is only a reference to the file – it no the actual file – the file may not even exist, yet we have an ObjectIdentity that we can then reason about security and fetch ACLs for.

    This pattern can be applied to any kind of domain object. Create an DomainObjectPrototype implementation that describes the domain object in terms of the domain features needed to secure it, but doesn’t actually need a reference to the domain object. YOu can think of this as the details needed for some service to actually create that domain object.

    PS: let me confess that I’ve never used spring security, but the design pattern seems pretty clear to me after looking at an example.

    EDIT: I’ve updated this to hopefully make it clearer – it’s not necessary to create implementations of ObjectIdentity as I originaly wrote.

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