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Asked: May 21, 20262026-05-21T02:45:58+00:00 2026-05-21T02:45:58+00:00

I have a form which permits updating of a user record. It contains fields

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I have a form which permits updating of a user record. It contains fields for :password and :password_confirmation but I do not want validation to run on them if an encrypted password is already stored in the database.

The fields from the view file:

<%= f.password_field :password %>
<%= f.password_field :password_confirmation, :label => 'Confirm Password' %>

In searching the internet, I found this bit of code, which I assume was for a previous version of Ruby/Rails. (Which I would place in my user model.)

validates_presence_of :password, :on => create

As the syntax for my password validation in my user model is different (below), I’m confused about the syntax I would need.

validates :password, :presence => true, :confirmation => true

I have searched other posts and sure could use some direction.

— Disclaimer — I did see that there is a screen cast about conditional validations but I’m not able to watch it at the moment.

Thanks, all.

Edit – inserted the following code and it does permit a user record update without complaining about the password field missing.

validates :password, :presence => true, :confirmation => true, :on => :create
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    2026-05-21T02:45:59+00:00Added an answer on May 21, 2026 at 2:45 am

    I would recommend doing the following:

    validates :password,
      :presence => true,
      :confirmation => true,
      :if => lambda{ new_record? || !password.nil? }
    

    This basically says that a password needs to be confirmed on creation with password_confirmation and that it also needs to be confirmed when password is not nil – for example when the user is updating their password.

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