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Asked: May 20, 20262026-05-20T09:24:02+00:00 2026-05-20T09:24:02+00:00

I have been learning C# for the last year or so and trying to

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I have been learning C# for the last year or so and trying to incorporate best practices along the way. Between StackOverflow and other web resources, I thought I was on the right track to properly separating my concerns, but now I am having some doubts and want to make sure I am going down the right path before I convert my entire website over to this new architecture.

The current website is old ASP VBscript and has a existing database that is pretty ugly (no foreign keys and such) so at least for the first version in .NET I do not want to use and have to learn any ORM tools at this time.

I have the following items that are in separate namespaces and setup so that the UI layer can only see the DTOs and Business layers, and the Data layer can only be seen from the Business layer. Here is a simple example:

productDTO.cs

public class ProductDTO
{
    public int ProductId { get; set; }
    public string Name { get; set; }

    public ProductDTO()
    {
        ProductId = 0;
        Name = String.Empty;
    }
}

productBLL.cs

public class ProductBLL
{

    public ProductDTO GetProductByProductId(int productId)
    {
        //validate the input            
        return ProductDAL.GetProductByProductId(productId);
    }

    public List<ProductDTO> GetAllProducts()
    {
        return ProductDAL.GetAllProducts();
    }

    public void Save(ProductDTO dto)
    {
        ProductDAL.Save(dto);
    }

    public bool IsValidProductId(int productId)
    {
        //domain validation stuff here
    }
}

productDAL.cs

public class ProductDAL
{
    //have some basic methods here to convert sqldatareaders to dtos


    public static ProductDTO GetProductByProductId(int productId)
    {
        ProductDTO dto = new ProductDTO();
        //db logic here using common functions 
        return dto;
    }

    public static List<ProductDTO> GetAllProducts()
    {
        List<ProductDTO> dtoList = new List<ProductDTO>();
        //db logic here using common functions 
        return dtoList;
    }

    public static void Save(ProductDTO dto)
    {
        //save stuff here
    }

}

In my UI, I would do something like this:

ProductBLL productBll = new ProductBLL();
List<ProductDTO> productList = productBll.GetAllProducts();

for a save:

ProductDTO dto = new ProductDTO();
dto.ProductId = 5;
dto.Name = "New product name";
productBll.Save(dto);

Am I completely off base? Should I also have the same properties in my BLL and not pass back DTOs to my UI? Please tell me what is wrong and what is right. Keep in mind I am not a expert yet.

I would like to implement interfaces to my architecture, but I am still learning how to do that.

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    2026-05-20T09:24:03+00:00Added an answer on May 20, 2026 at 9:24 am

    Anemic domain is when a product or other class doesn’t really implement anything more than data setters and getters – no domain behavior.

    For instance, a product domain object should have some methods exposed, some data validations, some real business logic.

    Otherwise, the BLL version (the domain object) is hardly better than a DTO.

    http://martinfowler.com/bliki/AnemicDomainModel.html

    ProductBLL productBll = new ProductBLL();
    List<ProductDTO> productList = productBll.GetAllProducts();
    

    The problem here is that you are pre-supposing your model is anemic and exposing the DTO to the business layer consumers (the UI or whatever).

    Your application code generally wants to be working with <Product>s, not any BLL or DTO or whatever. Those are implementation classes. They not only mean little to the application programmer level of thought, they mean little to domain experts who ostensibly understand the problem domain. Thus they should only be visible when you are working on the plumbing, not when you are designing the bathroom, if you see what I mean.

    I name my BLL objects the name of the business domain entity. And the DTO is internal between the business entity and the DAL. When the domain entity doesn’t do anything more than the DTO – that’s when it’s anemic.

    Also, I’ll add that I often just leave out explcit DTO classes, and have the domain object go to a generic DAL with organized stored procs defined in the config and load itself from a plain old datareader into its properties. With closures, it’s now possible to have very generic DALs with callbacks which let you insert your parameters.

    I would stick to the simplest thing that can possibly work:

    public class Product {
        // no one can "make" Products
        private Product(IDataRecord dr) {
            // Make this product from the contents of the IDataRecord
        }
    
        static private List<Product> GetList(string sp, Action<DbCommand> addParameters) {
            List<Product> lp = new List<Product>();
            // DAL.Retrieve yields an iEnumerable<IDataRecord> (optional addParameters callback)
            // public static IEnumerable<IDataRecord> Retrieve(string StoredProcName, Action<DbCommand> addParameters)
            foreach (var dr in DAL.Retrieve(sp, addParameters) ) {
                lp.Add(new Product(dr));
            }
            return lp;
        }
    
        static public List<Product> AllProducts() {
            return GetList("sp_AllProducts", null) ;
        }
    
        static public List<Product> AllProductsStartingWith(string str) {
            return GetList("sp_AllProductsStartingWith", cm => cm.Parameters.Add("StartsWith", str)) ;
        }
    
        static public List<Product> AllProductsOnOrder(Order o) {
            return GetList("sp_AllProductsOnOrder", cm => cm.Parameters.Add("OrderId", o.OrderId)) ;
        }
    }
    

    You can then move the obvious parts out into a DAL. The DataRecords serve as your DTO, but they are very short-lived – a collection of them never really exists.

    Here’s a DAL.Retrieve for SqlServer which is static (you can see it’s simple enough to change it to use CommandText); I have a version of this which encapsulates the connection string (and so it’s not a static method):

        public static IEnumerable<IDataRecord> SqlRetrieve(string ConnectionString, string StoredProcName,
                                                           Action<SqlCommand> addParameters)
        {
            using (var cn = new SqlConnection(ConnectionString))
            using (var cmd = new SqlCommand(StoredProcName, cn))
            {
                cn.Open();
                cmd.CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure;
    
                if (addParameters != null)
                {
                    addParameters(cmd);
                }
    
                using (var rdr = cmd.ExecuteReader())
                {
                    while (rdr.Read())
                        yield return rdr;
                }
            }
        }
    

    Later you can move on to full blown frameworks.

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