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Asked: May 11, 20262026-05-11T22:26:46+00:00 2026-05-11T22:26:46+00:00

I have been reading up on multiple PHP frameworks, especially the Zend Framework but

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I have been reading up on multiple PHP frameworks, especially the Zend Framework but I am getting confused about the proper way to go forward.

Zend Framework does not use ActiveRecords but instead uses the Table Data Gateway and Row Data Gateway pattern, and uses a DataMapper to map the contents of the Row Data Gateway to the model, because ActiveRecord breaks down when your models don’t have a 1:1 mapping to your database tables. There is an example of this in the Zend Quickstart guide.

To me, their example looks very bloated with a ton of getters and setters all over the place. I came across various blog posts about Domain Driven Design arguing that using so many getters and setters is bad practice because it exposes all the inner model data to the outside, so it has no advantage over public attributes. Here is one example.

My question: If you remove those getters and setters, how will you render your views? At some point the data has to hit the view so you can actually show something to the user. Following the DDD advice seems to break the separation between M and V in MVC. Following the MVC and Zend example seems to break DDD and leaves me typing up a whole lot of getters, setters and DataMappers for all my models. Aside from being a lot of work it also seems to violate DRY.

I would really appreciate some (links to) good examples or more information about how it all fits together. I’m trying to improve my achitecture and design skills here.

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    2026-05-11T22:26:47+00:00Added an answer on May 11, 2026 at 10:26 pm

    Using Value Objects, you can eliminate some of those public setter methods. Here’s a description of the difference between Entity and Value Objects. Value Objects are immutable and often tied to an Entity. If you pass all values in with the constructor, you don’t need to set these properties from external code.

    Something extra, not directly related to an answer, but more focused on DDD:

    (Disclaimer: The only thing I know about the Zend Framework is what I read in the linked article.) The Zend Framework is using DataMappers instead of Repositories. Is this really DDD-ish? Well, Fowler’s interpretation of a Repository might say no. However, Eric Evans states that a DDD Repository can be very simple. At its simplest, a Repository is a DataMapper (See DDD book). For something more complex and still DDD, see the Fowler article. DDD has a conceptual Repository that may differ from the pattern definition.

    I urge you to continue reading about Domain-Driven Design. I think there’s a flaw in the assumption that getters and setters violate DDD. DDD is about focusing on the domain model and best practices to accomplish that. Accessors are just a minor detail.

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