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Asked: May 26, 20262026-05-26T04:32:55+00:00 2026-05-26T04:32:55+00:00

I have entity Ideas, which has child entity collection ChildIdeas. I need to load

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I have entity “Ideas”, which has child entity collection “ChildIdeas”. I need to load list of ideas and count of “ChildIdeas” (only count!).
I can do:

eager loading

from i in _dataContext.Ideas.Include("ChildIdeas") ...

advantages : all necessary data got by one request;
disadvantages : load unnecessary data. I need only count of ChildIdeas, not full ChildIdeas list

Explicit loading

from i in _dataContext.Ideas ...

idea.ChildIdeas.Loading()

advantages : none;
disadvantages : many requests (ideas.count + 1) instead of one, load unnecessary data

Independent requests

from i in _dataContext.Ideas ...

_repository.GetCountChildIdeas(idea.ID);

advantages : load only necessary data;
disadvantages : many requests (ideas.count + 1) instead of one

all 3 types have disadvantages. Maybe is exist any way to load only necessary data? If yes – what is it, if no – which way is the best for this case?

[ADDED]
after load testing (for 1 user) I got Page Load (in sec):
eager Child Ideas – 1.31 sec
explicit Child Ideas – 1.19 sec
external requests – 1.14 sec

so, eager way for my case is the worst… Why even explicit way is better?

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    2026-05-26T04:32:55+00:00Added an answer on May 26, 2026 at 4:32 am

    You should use projection. Count of child ideas is not part of persisted Idea entity so create new non-mapped type containing all properties from Idea entity and Count property.

    public class IdeaProjection
    {
        public int Id { get; set; }
        // Other properties
        public int Count { get; set; }
    }
    

    Now you can use simple projection query to get everything with single request without loading any additional data:

    var query = from x in context.Ideas
                where ...
                select new IdeaProjection
                    {
                        Id = x.Id,
                        // Mapped other properties
                        Count = x.ChildIdeas.Count()
                    };
    

    Disadvantage is that IdeaProjection is not entity and if you want to use it for updates as well you must transform it back to Idea and tell EF about changes. From performance perspective it is best you can get from EF without reverting back to SQL or stored procedures.

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