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Asked: May 12, 20262026-05-12T06:53:00+00:00 2026-05-12T06:53:00+00:00

I have some unexplained weirdness with a nested DIV’s margin leaking out of the

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I have some unexplained weirdness with a nested DIV’s margin “leaking” out of the parent container .

The following test case* probably explains it best:

http://jsbin.com/ibaze

The outer wrapper (red) doesn’t start at the very top – unless there’s a text node or overflow: auto; on that element.
(Tested on Firefox and Safari.)

While overflow allows me to work around the issue, I’d quite like to know why it is happening in the first place.
Any insights would be appreciated!

 * it’s a minimal test case except for the script at the bottom, which merely illustrates the workarounds

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    2026-05-12T06:53:00+00:00Added an answer on May 12, 2026 at 6:53 am

    The reason why it is not working is that your vertical margin in CSS is collapsing, which is expected behavior.

    Remove the margin from #inner, and instead specify a padding: 50px; to your #outer to get the desired result:

    * {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
    }
    
    body {
        color: white;
        background-color: blue;
    }
    
    #outer {
        padding: 50px;
        background-color: red;
    }
    
    #inner {
        background-color: green;
    }
    

    For more information on Vertical Margin Collapsing, I recommend you read the following article:

    CSS – Auto-height and margin-collapsing

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