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Asked: June 13, 20262026-06-13T15:53:19+00:00 2026-06-13T15:53:19+00:00

I have this simple example: <header> <ul> <li>Item</li> <li>Item</li> <li>Item</li> <li>Item</li> <li class="clear"></li> </ul>

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I have this simple example:

<header>
    <ul>
        <li>Item</li>
        <li>Item</li>
        <li>Item</li>
        <li>Item</li>
        <li class="clear"></li>
    </ul>
</header>
<section>section</section>

And this piece of css:

BODY, HTML{
    margin: 0;
}
header{
    margin-bottom: 100px; /* section goes down */
}
UL{
    list-style-type: none;
}
UL LI{
    float: left;
    background: green;
}
.clear{
    clear: both;
    float: none;
}
section{
    background: red;
}

So expect for the "header" to go straight to top-left corner, then 100px margin, then "section". In all major browsers that works as expected, but in Firefox (version 16) "header" get extra margin-top for some reason.

Is this a bug?

Here is an jsfiddle example: http://jsfiddle.net/AvZek/2/

BTW
If I use clearfix instead of the "clear" class then it’s working just fine.

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    2026-06-13T15:53:20+00:00Added an answer on June 13, 2026 at 3:53 pm

    This is, without a doubt, a bug. The margin is definitely not supposed to be there.

    • According to Firebug, the only non-zero margin that is computed that I can see is the same margin-bottom: 100px on your header element as in your CSS. Everything else is zero.

    • Even Firebug’s DOM inspector has trouble identifying it; it never highlights that region, with the obvious exception of when you’re inspecting html itself (which it highlights as part of its content area).

    I found tons of bug reports which were closed as duplicates of this one, with numerous more test cases. Plus, it looks like it has been around since at least Firefox 2.

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