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Asked: May 20, 20262026-05-20T09:23:12+00:00 2026-05-20T09:23:12+00:00

I need to present a form that is not backed by an AR model.

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I need to present a form that is not backed by an AR model. (I know this question has been asked dozens of times in various way, but despite lots of reading an experimentation, I still can’t get it right.)

The simplest way to describe what I need is by reverse engineering: Assume I want a form with a “username” field and a “accesscode” field. Then I want the [submit] button to call:

ServicesController#update

with the params hash set to (at least):

params={"service"=>{"credentials"=>{"username"=>"fred", "accesscode"=>"1234"}}, "commit"=>"update credentials", "action"=>"update", "controller"=>"services", "id"=>"54"}

or perhaps just

params={"credentials"=>{"username"=>"fred", "accesscode"=>"1234"}, "commit"=>"update credentials", "action"=>"update", "controller"=>"services", "id"=>"54"}

where ’54’ is the id of the Services object I want to update. (My update() method will pull the credentials out of the params hash and do the right thing with them.) (I haven’t shown the routes, but I’m not sure that’s relevant here.)

But I haven’t yet figured out how to get form_tag or form_for to hew to my bidding. Suggestions?

Update
As per aperture’s suggestions below, a form_tag seems to be the right thing. I am getting a routing error ‘No route matches “/services/54″‘. Before I go modifying my current routes, I currently have:

resources :premises, :shallow => true do
  resources :services
end

which gives me (in part):

edit_service GET    /services/:id/edit(.:format) {:action=>"edit", :controller=>"services"}
     service GET    /services/:id(.:format)      {:action=>"show", :controller=>"services"}
             PUT    /services/:id(.:format)      {:action=>"update", :controller=>"services"}
             DELETE /services/:id(.:format)      {:action=>"destroy", :controller=>"services"}
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    2026-05-20T09:23:13+00:00Added an answer on May 20, 2026 at 9:23 am

    routes.rb

    match '/services/update/:id', :to => 'services#update', :as => 'update_service'
    

    Then your form:

    - form_tag @service, :url => update_service_path do
      = text_field :credentials, :userid, 'value' => 'fred'
      = text_field :credentials, :accessid, 'value' => '1234'
    

    then in your controller:

    def update
      @service = Service.find_by_id(params[:id])
      @service.update_attribute('userid', params[:credentials][:userid])
      @service.update_attribute('accessid', params[:credentials][:accessid])
    end
    

    I don’t know what the Services object is if it’s not a model. So I don’t know what method would be necessary to find the Service by id, and the update_attribute call probably won’t work if it’s not a model, but it’s hard to say without more information

    This is entirely untested. But hopefully is close to working…

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