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Asked: 2026-05-13T18:33:38+00:00

I recently inspect a GUI with Microsoft’s Spy++ and noticed a strange structure; it

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I recently inspect a GUI with Microsoft’s Spy++ and noticed a strange structure; it looked like this (warning, ASCII art ahead):

 |
 + 002004D6 "MyRootWindow1" FooClassName
 |   |
 |   + 001F052C "MyChildWindow" ClassOfChildWindow
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 \ 001D0A8C "MyRootWindow2" SomeOtherClassName

There are two root windows, 002004D6 and 001D0A8c, the former one of which has one child window, 001F052C.

Now, this would be all good and find if it wasn’t for one thing: calling GetParent (or watching the ‘Parent Window’ or ‘Owner Window’ fields in Spy++) on the child window (001F052C) yields 001D0A8C.

Read: “MyChildWindow” is a child of “MyRootWindow1”, but “MyRootWindow1” is not the parent of “MyChildWindow”. Instead, the parent of “MyChildWindow” is “MyRootWindow2” – but, to make this complete, enumerating the children of “MyRootWindow2” does not yield “MyChildWindow”.

This is a perfectly static GUI applications, so there are no race conditions here or anything.

Does anybody know how this can happen? Does anybody know how I can work around this? Until
now, I used GetParent and EnumChildWindows to get the parent (or children) for a given HWND, and I assumed that this relationship is symmetrical. Is there maybe something else I should be using?

EDIT: Here’s the code for a small C++ program which demonstrates the problem:

const HINSTANCE thisModule = ::GetModuleHandle( NULL );
HWND oldParent = ::CreateWindow( TEXT("STATIC"),
                                 TEXT("Old parent"),
                                 WS_VISIBLE | WS_BORDER,
                                 0, 0, 850, 500,
                                 NULL,
                                 NULL,
                                 thisModule,
                                 NULL );
HWND child = ::CreateWindow( TEXT("STATIC"),
                             TEXT("This is a sample dialog"),
                             WS_OVERLAPPED | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | WS_BORDER,
                             100, 100, 300, 300,
                             oldParent,
                             NULL,
                             thisModule,
                             NULL );
HWND newParent = ::CreateWindow( TEXT("STATIC"),
                                 TEXT("Fake main window"),
                                 WS_VISIBLE | WS_BORDER,
                                 0, 0, 850, 500,
                                 NULL,
                                 NULL,
                                 thisModule,
                                 NULL );
::SetParent( child, newParent );

Note how the ‘child’ object has WS_POPUP and WS_OVERLAPPED set, but not WS_CHILD.

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  1. Editorial Team

    The documentation for GetParent explains:
    “Note that, despite its name, this function can return an owner window instead of a parent window. “

    As you are not creating a child window i’m guessing you hit this case.

    You should be able to call GetAncestor passing GA_PARENT as the documentation says:
    “Retrieves the parent window. This does not include the owner, as it does with the GetParent function.”

    See Win32 window Owner vs window Parent?

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