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Asked: May 25, 20262026-05-25T10:33:28+00:00 2026-05-25T10:33:28+00:00

I try to override this method def sum[B >: A](implicit num: Numeric[B]): B =

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I try to override this method

def sum[B >: A](implicit num: Numeric[B]): B = ...

in a subclass where type A is already fixed to Int.

I already tried

override def sum: Int = ...

but this doesn’t override of course, leading to different method resolution based on the dynamic type at runtime.

Going further,

def sum[B >: Int](implicit num: Numeric[B]): Int

does override, while

def sum[B >: Int](implicit num: Numeric[Int]): Int

does not, as well as

def sum(implicit num: Numeric[Int]): Int

Why is that the case? Is it at leats possible to get rid of the superfluous bound B?

I’m not sure which types and implicits I can leave out and what has to stay so that the method still overrides.

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    2026-05-25T10:33:29+00:00Added an answer on May 25, 2026 at 10:33 am

    Ok, trying to explain why the rules must force you to keep the signature with implicit parameter and variance.

    First, animplicit argument is still an argument, it can be passed explicitely, and except maybe when it has a singleton type (which would not be very useful), several different instances of it are possible.

    Suppose I create

    case class ZModulo(val p: Int) extends Numeric[Int] {
      def plus(a: Int, b: Int) = (a+b) % p
      // others along the same line
    }
    

    It seems like a proper Numeric. Numeric documentation does not say which laws should be expected, but ZModulo is not unreasonable.

    Now there is your

    class Summable[A] {
      def sum[B >: A](implicit num: Numeric[A]): B =...
    }
    

    If I have val ints : Summable[Int], I am certainly allowed to call ints.Sum(ZModulo(3)). So if your class is to be a subclass of Summable[Int], it must allow me that. So you cannot remove the Numeric parameter.

    Second, suppose I come with a Numeric[Any]. Not sure how I could do that reasonably for a numeric, but the spec and the compiler can’t know that. And anyway, they must accept unreasonable implementations too. So let’s have

    object MixThemAll : Numeric[A] {...}
    

    The signature in Summable allows ints.sum(MixThemAll). So your subclass must allow that too.

    So letting you remove either implicit parameter or variance in the subclass would be unsound.

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