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Asked: May 13, 20262026-05-13T09:35:25+00:00 2026-05-13T09:35:25+00:00

I wonder why these statements are not the same (the first one worked for

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I wonder why these statements are not the same (the first one worked for me)

AND user_thread_map.user_id = $user_id
AND user_thread_map.thread_id = threads.id

AND user_thread_map.user_id = users.id
AND user_thread_map.thread_id = threads.id
AND users.id = $user_id

Shouldn’t they be the same? In the 2nd one I linked all the tables in the first 2 lines, then I tell it to select where users.id = $user_id.

Can someone explain why the 2nd statement doesn’t work? Because I thought it would.

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    2026-05-13T09:35:25+00:00Added an answer on May 13, 2026 at 9:35 am

    Assuming you’re getting no rows returned (you don’t really say what the problem is, so I’m guessing a bit here), my first thought is that there are no rows in users where id is equal to $user_id.

    That’s the basic difference between those two SQL segments, the second is a cross-join of the user_thread_map, threads and users tables. The first does not join with users at all, so that’s where I’d be looking for the problem.

    It appears that your user_thread_map table is a many-to-many relationship between users and threads. If that is true, are you sure you have a foreign key constraint between the ID fields in that table to both corresponding other tables, something like:

    users:
        id integer primary key
        name varchar(50)
    threads:
        id integer primary key
        thread_text varchar(100)
    user_thread_map:
        user_id integer references users(id)
        thread_id integer references threads(id)
    

    If you have those foreign key constraints, it should be impossible to end up with a user_thread_map(user_id) value that doesn’t have a corresponding users(id) value.

    If those constraints aren’t there, a query can tell you which values need to be fixed before immediately adding the constraints (this is important to prevent the problem from re-occurring), something like:

    select user_thread_map.user_id
    from user_thread_map
    left join users
    on user_thread_map.user_id = users.id
    where users.id is null
    
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