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Asked: May 31, 20262026-05-31T15:56:16+00:00 2026-05-31T15:56:16+00:00

If I try this: $a = 0; echo $a + ++$a, PHP_EOL; echo $a;

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If I try this:

$a = 0;    
echo $a + ++$a, PHP_EOL;
echo $a;

I get this output:

2
1

Demo: http://codepad.org/ncVuJtJu

Why is that?

I expect to get this as an output:

1
1

My understanding:

$a = 0;                    // a === 0    
echo $a + ++$a, PHP_EOL;   // (0) + (0+1) === 1
echo $a;                   // a === 1

But why isn’t that the output?

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    2026-05-31T15:56:18+00:00Added an answer on May 31, 2026 at 3:56 pm

    All the answers explaining why you get 2 and not 1 are actually wrong. According to the PHP documentation, mixing + and ++ in this manner is undefined behavior, so you could get either 1 or 2. Switching to a different version of PHP may change the result you get, and it would be just as valid.

    See example 1, which says:

    // mixing ++ and + produces undefined behavior
    $a = 1;
    echo ++$a + $a++; // may print 4 or 5
    

    Notes:

    1. Operator precedence does not determine the order of evaluation. Operator precedence only determines that the expression $l + ++$l is parsed as $l + (++$l), but doesn’t determine if the left or right operand of the + operator is evaluated first. If the left operand is evaluated first, the result would be 0+1, and if the right operand is evaluated first, the result would be 1+1.

    2. Operator associativity also does not determine order of evaluation. That the + operator has left associativity only determines that $a+$b+$c is evaluated as ($a+$b)+$c. It does not determine in what order a single operator’s operands are evaluated.

    Also relevant: On this bug report regarding another expression with undefined results, a PHP developer says: “We make no guarantee about the order of evaluation […], just as C doesn’t. Can you point to any place on the documentation where it’s stated that the first operand is evaluated first?”

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