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Asked: May 18, 20262026-05-18T21:08:18+00:00 2026-05-18T21:08:18+00:00

I’m developing a high score web service for my game, and it’s running on

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I’m developing a high score web service for my game, and it’s running on Google App Engine.

My game has 5 difficulties, so I originally had 5 boards with entries for each (player_login, score and time). If the player submitted a lower score than the previously scored, it got dismissed, so only the highest score is kept for each player.

But to add more fun into this, I’d decided to include daily/weekly/monthly/yearly high score tables. So I’ve created 5 boards for each difficulty, making it 25 boards. When a score is submitted, it’s saved into each board, and the boards are supposed to be cleared on every day/week/month/year.

This happens by a cron job that is invoked and deletes all entries from a specific board.

Here comes the problem: it looks like deleting entries from the datastore is slow. From my test daily cleanups it looks like deleting a single entry takes around 200 ms.

In the worst-case scenario, if the game would be quite popular and would have, say, 100 000 players, and each of them would have an entry in the yearly board, it would take 100 000 * 0.012 seconds = 12 000 seconds (3 hours!!) to clear that board. I think we are allowed to have jobs of up to 30 seconds in App Engine, so this wouldn’t work.

I’m deleting with following code (thanks to Nick Johnson):

q = Score.all(keys_only=True).filter('b = ',boardToClear)
results = q.fetch(500)
  while results:
    self.response.out.write("deleting one batch;")
    db.delete(results)
    q = Score.all(keys_only=True).filter('b = ',boardToClear).with_cursor(q.cursor())
    results = q.fetch(500)

What do you recommend me to do with this problem?

One approach that comes to my mind is to use a task queue and delete older scores than that are permitted in each board, i.e. which have expired, but in smaller quantities. This way I wouldn’t hit the CPU limit for one task, but the cleanup would not be (nearly) instantaneous, so my 12 000 seconds long cleanup would be split into 1 200 tasks, each roughly 10 seconds long.

But I think that there is something that I’m doing wrong, this kind of operation would be a lot faster when done in relational database. Possibly something is wrong with my approach to the datastore and scoring, because being locked in RDBMS mindset.

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    2026-05-18T21:08:19+00:00Added an answer on May 18, 2026 at 9:08 pm

    First, a couple of small suggestions:

    1. Does deletion take 200ms per item even when you delete items in a batch process? The fastest way to delete should be to do a keys_only query and then call db.delete() on an entire list of keys at once.
    2. The 30-second limit was recently relaxed to 10 minutes for background work (like the cron jobs or queue tasks that you’re contemplating) as of 1.4.0.

    These may not fundamentally address your problem, though. I think there’s no way to get around the fact that deleting a large number of records (hundreds of thousands, say), will take some time. I’m not sure that this is as big a problem for your use case though, as I can see a couple of techniques that would help.

    1. As you suggest, use a task queue to split up a long-running tasks into several smaller tasks. Your use case (deleting a huge number of items that match a particular query) is ideal for a map-reduce task. Nick Johnson’s blog post on the Mapper API may be very helpful for you (so that you don’t have to write all of that task management code on your own).
    2. Do you need to delete all the out-of-date board entries immediately? If you had a field that listed which week, month, or year that a particular entry counted for, you could index on that field and then only display entries from the current month on the visible leaderboard. (Disk space is cheap, after all.) And then if you wanted to slowly (over hours, say, instead of milliseconds) remove the out-of-date data, you could do that in the background without ever having incorrect data on your leaderboards.
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