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Asked: June 11, 20262026-06-11T19:20:08+00:00 2026-06-11T19:20:08+00:00

I’m implementing a pthread replacement library which is extremely lightweight. There are several reasons

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I’m implementing a pthread replacement library which is extremely lightweight. There are several reasons why I want to disable __thread completely.

  1. It’s a waste of memory. If I’m creating a thousand threads which has nothing to do with the context that declares a variable with __thread they will still allocate the program will still have allocated 1000*the size of that data bytes and never use it. It’s simply not memory compatible with the mass-concurrency model. If we need extremely lightweight fibers with only 8K of stack, a TLS block of just 4K would be an overhead of 50% of the memory used by each thread. In some scenarios the TLS overhead would be enormous.
  2. TLS is a complex standard and I simply don’t have the time/resources to support it. It’s to expensive. Personally I think the standard is poorly designed. It should have defined standard functions that had to be provided by the linker so thread libraries can take control over where TLS allocation takes place and insert relevant offsets and addresses it requires. Also the standard ELF implementation has been infected with pthread, expecting pthread sized structs to calculate offsets making it really hard to adapt to something else.
  3. It’s just a bad pattern. It encourages using globals and creating functions with static functions/side effects. This is not a territory we want to be in if we’re creating correct programs that are easy to analyze.
  4. If we really need “thread context” for some magic that tracks thread state behind the scenes (like for allocation or cancellation tracking) why not just expose the magic that TLS uses to understand that context in the first place? Personally I’m just going to use the %fs register directly. This would not be possible in libraries for obvious reasons but why should they be thread aware to begin with? Why not just design them correctly so they get the context related data they need in the first place right in the argument list?

My question is simply: What is the simplest way to disable __thread support and make clang emit errors if you accidentally used it? How can I get errors if I load a dynamic library which happens to require TLS?

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    2026-06-11T19:20:09+00:00Added an answer on June 11, 2026 at 7:20 pm

    I believe the simplest way is adding something like this unconditionally to your CFLAGS (perhaps from clang’s equivalent of the gcc specfile if you want it to be system-global):

    -D__thread='^-^'
    

    where the righthand side can be anything that’s syntactically invalid (a constraint violation) at any point in a C program.

    As for preventing loading of libraries with TLS, you’d have to patch the linker and/or dynamic linker to reject them. If you’re just talking about dlopen, your program could first read the file and parse the ELF headers for TLS relocations, then reject the library (without passing it to dlopen) if it has any. This might even be possible with an LD_PRELOAD wrapper.

    I agree with you that, especially in its current implementation, TLS is something whose use should generally be avoided, but may I ask if you’ve measured the costs? I think stamping it out completely will be fairly difficult on a system that’s designed to use it, and there’s much lower-hanging fruit for cutting bloat. Which libc are you using? If it’s glibc, I’m pretty sure glibc has lots of TLS it uses internally itself these days… Of course if you’re writing your own threads implementation, that’s going to entail a lot of interaction with the rest of the standard library, so perhaps you’re already patching it out…?


    By the way (shameless plug follows), we have an extremely light-weight threads implementation in musl libc which presently does not have TLS. I don’t think it would be easy to integrate with another libc (and I’m sure if you’re writing your own you will find it difficult to integrate with glibc, especially glibc’s dynamic linker, which expects TLS to be supported) but if you can use the whole library as-is, it may meet your needs for specific projects, or have useful code you can borrow (license is MIT).

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