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Asked: May 26, 20262026-05-26T21:16:39+00:00 2026-05-26T21:16:39+00:00

I’m new to ORM in general and I’m having trouble getting Rails to generate

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I’m new to ORM in general and I’m having trouble getting Rails to generate ok SQL. I have two tables, messages and users. Basically, I want a list of the messages with the user_name of the senders tacked on.

It would be great if:

  • I only got that one column from the user table (the user table has lots of columns that don’t need to get selected)

  • It used a LEFT JOIN (I want messages even if the users are gone for some reason, and I don’t want to slow things down with an INNER JOIN)

  • I don’t need to mention the names of the foriegn keys in this code (I should only have to set those up in the models and “NOT REPEAT MYSELF”, right?)

I have these models set up:

class Message < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :sender, :class_name => "User", :foreign_key => "from_user_id"
  belongs_to :recipient, :class_name => "User", :foreign_key => "to_user_id"
end


class User < ActiveRecord::Base
  has_many :sent_messages, :class_name => "Message", :foreign_key => "from_user_id"
  has_many :received_messages, :class_name => "Message", :foreign_key => "to_user_id"
end

I really WANT to like ORM, but it seems like it’s so easy to get to the point where you just have to write the queries yourself.

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    2026-05-26T21:16:40+00:00Added an answer on May 26, 2026 at 9:16 pm

    Perhaps something like this will do the trick (in Message model):

    default_scope select("messages.*, users.name as user_name").joins(:user).includes(:user)
    

    The thing is, that unless this join works as expected, you will need to specify the joins() with an SQL snippet, and then the includes() will probably NOT utilize this join, and rather do N+1 queries in total.

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