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Asked: May 16, 20262026-05-16T22:12:48+00:00 2026-05-16T22:12:48+00:00

I’m not asking about Python’s scoping rules; I understand generally how scoping works in

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I’m not asking about Python’s scoping rules; I understand generally how scoping works in Python for loops. My question is why the design decisions were made in this way. For example (no pun intended):

for foo in xrange(10):
    bar = 2
print(foo, bar)

The above will print (9,2).

This strikes me as weird: ‘foo’ is really just controlling the loop, and ‘bar’ was defined inside the loop. I can understand why it might be necessary for ‘bar’ to be accessible outside the loop (otherwise, for loops would have very limited functionality). What I don’t understand is why it is necessary for the control variable to remain in scope after the loop exits. In my experience, it simply clutters the global namespace and makes it harder to track down errors that would be caught by interpreters in other languages.

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    2026-05-16T22:12:49+00:00Added an answer on May 16, 2026 at 10:12 pm

    The likeliest answer is that it just keeps the grammar simple, hasn’t been a stumbling block for adoption, and many have been happy with not having to disambiguate the scope to which a name belongs when assigning to it within a loop construct. Variables are not declared within a scope, it is implied by the location of assignment statements. The global keyword exists just for this reason (to signify that assignment is done at a global scope).

    Update

    Here’s a good discussion on the topic: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2008-October/002109.html

    Previous proposals to make for-loop
    variables local to the loop have
    stumbled on the problem of existing
    code that relies on the loop variable
    keeping its value after exiting the
    loop, and it seems that this is
    regarded as a desirable feature.

    In short, you can probably blame it on the Python community 😛

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