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Asked: May 20, 20262026-05-20T20:40:55+00:00 2026-05-20T20:40:55+00:00

I’m relatively new to rails (3), and am building an application, using CanCan, where

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I’m relatively new to rails (3), and am building an application, using CanCan, where there are 3 tiers of users.

  • Guest – unregistered visitor User
  • registered and logged in visitor
  • Admin – registered and logged in
    visitor with admin flag

My ability is bog-stock right now, copied from cancan docs, basically defining the guest role and the admin role

class Ability

    include CanCan::Ability

    def initialize(user)
        user ||= User.new # Guest user

        if user.is_admin?
            can :manage, :all
        else
            can :read, [Asana,Image,User,Video,Sequence]
        end
    end

end

I’m looking to add in the user role. Since I’m creating that throwaway user model, I thought about using new_record? to determine if the user is logged in or not. Something like:

class Ability

    include CanCan::Ability

    def initialize(user)
        user ||= User.new # Guest user

        if !user.new_record? and user.is_admin?
            can :manage, :all
        elsif !user.new_record? and !user.is_admin?
            can {registered user-y permissions}
        else
            can :read, [Asana,Image,User,Video,Sequence]
        end
    end

end

But, it just doesn’t feel right. Seems kind of disassociated from, like, actual logged-in-ed-ness, and have concerns about whether its actually secure.

Looking for advice on a more elegant way to doing this.

Thanks!

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    2026-05-20T20:40:56+00:00Added an answer on May 20, 2026 at 8:40 pm

    Good question, I use a lower to higher permissions approach:

    class Ability  
      include CanCan::Ability  
    
      def initialize(user)
        # Guest User 
        unless user 
          can :read, [Asana,Image,User,Video,Sequence]
        else
          # All registered users
          can {registered user-y permissions}
          # Admins 
          if user.is_admin?
            can :manage, :all
          end
        end 
      end  
    end
    

    This way if tomorrow you have other roles to integrate you can do it adding a case statement like so:

    class Ability  
      include CanCan::Ability  
    
      def initialize(user)
        # Guest User 
        unless user 
          can :read, [Asana,Image,User,Video,Sequence]
        else
          # All registered users
          can {registered user-y permissions}
          # Different roles
          case user.role
          when 'admin'
            can :manage, :all
          when 'manager'
            can :manage, [Video, Image, Sequence]
          end
        end 
      end  
    end
    
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