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Asked: May 15, 20262026-05-15T00:39:23+00:00 2026-05-15T00:39:23+00:00

I’m seeing something fairly strange here, I’ve got breakpoints set in various dealloc methods

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I’m seeing something fairly strange here, I’ve got breakpoints set in various dealloc methods in my app, and on inspection, the retain counts of the object self varies from 1 to 0. When dealloc is called, will the retain count of the object be set to 0 already?

I’m using print (int) [self retainCount] in the console to test this.

The 0’s seem to only appear in the dealloc of my NSOperation‘s that are being run in an NSOperationQueue.

Any idea why this is?

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    2026-05-15T00:39:24+00:00Added an answer on May 15, 2026 at 12:39 am

    The retain count of your object doesn’t matter in -dealloc. For practical purposes, it’s undefined.

    The normal implementation of reference counting uses an external reference count for values greater than zero – see NSIncrementExtraRefCount() and NSDecrementExtraRefCountWasZero(). When the extraRefCount count is zero, the refCount is one. When NSDecrementExtraRefCountWasZero() is called and the extraRefCount is already zero, it returns YES and -dealloc is called. Except when dealing with the return value of NSDecrementExtraRefCountWasZero() there is no way to distinguish a refCount of one from a refCount of zero.

    That NSOperation gets a zero refCount suggests it’s not using the normal mechanism.

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