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Asked: May 26, 20262026-05-26T04:21:02+00:00 2026-05-26T04:21:02+00:00

I’m setting a margin for a div element, however the body element also gets

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I’m setting a margin for a div element, however the body element also gets that margin.

Consider this code:

<!-- HTML -->
<body>
  <div>
  </div>
</body>

<!-- CSS -->
<style>
  html,body {
   height:100%;
   margin:0;
   padding:0;
   outline:1px solid blue;
  }

 div {
   margin:20px;
   outline:1px solid red;
 }

</style>

This is the result and the problem:
http://i54.tinypic.com/29ve1zl.jpg

So far I’ve solved the problem by adding a border:1px solid transparent; property to the body element. This ruins the 100% height because scrollbars appear due to the 1px border. Why does this happen?

POSSIBLE SOLUTION (thanks for the help): Add a padding-top:1px and a margin-top:-1px, this way the 100% height doesn’t gets ruined with the scrollbars and your are avoiding margin collapsing.

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    2026-05-26T04:21:03+00:00Added an answer on May 26, 2026 at 4:21 am

    This sounds similar to a problem I had: Margins and negative margins. I solved mine by putting a padding-top rather than a border, maybe this works with your design slightly better? Otherwise try this link: http://www.seifi.org/css/understanding-taming-collapsing-margins-in-css.html

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