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Asked: May 23, 20262026-05-23T23:28:54+00:00 2026-05-23T23:28:54+00:00

I’m using the IE8 debugger to fix a script that works great in FF

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I’m using the IE8 debugger to fix a script that works great in FF 3.16 and Chrome 12.0, but doesn’t work for beans in IE 8.0 or Safari 5.0. The spot in the script that’s giving me trouble is here:

enter image description here

I need to find the number of <td>s in the the table id="main_tbody" whose children[0] is the first row of data. Both FF and Chrome understand this perfectly; IE 8 and Safari 5 do not.

I want to look at the DOM tree in the IE 8 debugger to see what’s going on. But I can’t find the ding-dong DOM, dang it!

So: where is the DOM in the IE 8 debugger?

Alternatively <ahem!>: what’s wrong with my JS code?

Thanks!

EDIT: I should have said that the table is set up like this:

<table id ="main">
 <tbody id="main_tbody">

And references to table id ="main" and tbody id="main_tbody" are initialized this way:

  main                 = getRefToDiv( 'main' );             
  main_tbody           = getRefToDiv( 'main_tbody' );
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    2026-05-23T23:28:55+00:00Added an answer on May 23, 2026 at 11:28 pm

    Unbelievable. According to quirksmode, ie8 fails to implement childElementCount and I believe it because that’s the thing that’s coming back == ‘undefined’. So I’ll rewrite my loop with a new exit condition. That sucks, because now I’m going to get all children, including comments and everything else, not just the elements I was looking for. Incredible. FYI, ie8 also does not implement firstElementChild, lastElementChild, nextElementSibling, or previousElementSibling.

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