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Asked: May 31, 20262026-05-31T07:48:42+00:00 2026-05-31T07:48:42+00:00

I’ve found extremely weird behaviour (scala 2.9.1 ) using and defining implicit values, and

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I’ve found extremely weird behaviour (scala 2.9.1 ) using and defining implicit values, and wondering if anyone can explain it, or if it’s a scala bug?

I’ve created a self contained example:

object AnnoyingObjectForNoPurpose {

  trait Printer[T] {
    def doPrint(v: T): Unit
  }

  def print[T : Printer](v: T) = implicitly[Printer[T]].doPrint(v)


  trait DelayedRunner extends DelayedInit {
    def delayedInit(x: => Unit){ x }
  }

  // this works, as it should
  object Normal extends DelayedRunner {
      implicit val imp = new Printer[Int] {
        def doPrint(v: Int) = println(v + " should work")
      }

      print(343)
  }

  // this compiles, but it shouldn't
  // and won't run, cause the implicit is still null
  object FalsePositive extends DelayedRunner {

      print(123)

      implicit val imp = new Printer[Int] {
        def doPrint(v: Int) = println(v + " should not compile")
      }
  }

  def main(args: Array[String]) {
    implicit val imp = new Printer[Int] {
      def doPrint(v: Int) = println(v + " should work")
    }

    print(44)
    // print(33.0) // correctly doesn't work 

    Normal // force it to run
    FalsePositive // force this to run too 
  }
}
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    2026-05-31T07:48:44+00:00Added an answer on May 31, 2026 at 7:48 am

    Suppose you changed your definition of delayInit to be a no-op, i.e.

    def delayedInit(x: => Unit) {  }
    

    Then in your main method do something like

    println("FP.imp: " + FalsePositive.imp)
    

    As expected that will print FP.imp: null, but the real point of the exercise is to illustrate that the block that defines the body of FalsePositive is acting like a regular class body, not a function body. It’s defining public members when it sees val, not local variables.

    If you added a method to AnnoyingObjectForNoPurpose like the following, it wouldn’t compile because print‘s implicit requirement isn’t satisfied.

    def fails {
      print(321)
      implicit val cantSeeIt = new Printer[Int] {
        def doPrint(v: Int) = println(v + " doesn't compile")
      }
    }
    

    However if you defined a class along the same principle, it would compile, but fail at runtime when initialized, just like your FalsePositive example.

    class Fine {
      print(321)
      implicit val willBeNull = new Printer[Int] {
        def doPrint(v: Int) = println(v + " compiles, but fails")
      }
    }
    

    To be clear, the compile behavior of Fine has nothing to do with the presence of the implicit. Class/object initializers are very happy to compile with val initializers which reference undefined vals.

    object Boring {
      val b = a
      val a = 1
      println("a=%s b=%s".format(a, b))
    }
    

    Boring compiles just fine and when it is referenced, it prints a=1 b=0

    It seems like your question boils down to “Should the body of a class/object deriving from DelayedInit be compiled as if it’s a class body or a function block?”

    It looks like Odersky picked the former, but you’re hoping for the latter.

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