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Asked: May 11, 20262026-05-11T10:13:27+00:00 2026-05-11T10:13:27+00:00

I’ve got the following code: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main(int argc, char

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#include <iostream>  using namespace std;  int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {     string a = 'a';     for(unsigned int i=a.length()-1; i+1 >= 1; --i)     {         if(i >= a.length())         {             cerr << (signed int)i << '?' << endl;             return 0;         }     } } 

If I compile in MSVC with full optimizations, the output I get is ‘-1?’. If I compile in Debug mode (no optimizations), I get no output (expected.)

I thought the standard guaranteed that unsigned integers overflowed in a predictable way, so that when i = (unsigned int)(-1), i+1 = 0, and the loop condition i + 1 >= 1 fails. Instead, the test is somehow passing. Is this a compiler bug, or am I doing something undefined somewhere?

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  1. 2026-05-11T10:13:27+00:00Added an answer on May 11, 2026 at 10:13 am

    I remember having this problem in 2001. I’m amazed it’s still there. Yes, this is a compiler bug.

    The optimiser is seeing

    i + 1 >= 1; 

    Theoretically, we can optimise this by putting all of the constants on the same side:

    i >= (1-1); 

    Because i is unsigned, it will always be greater than or equal to zero.

    See this newsgroup discussion here.

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