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Asked: June 15, 20262026-06-15T16:22:11+00:00 2026-06-15T16:22:11+00:00

Just interested, why below ( simplified ) example works this way. CREATE TABLE test

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Just interested, why below ( simplified ) example works this way.

CREATE TABLE test (id SERIAL, val INT NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY(id));
INSERT INTO test (val) VALUES (1);

WITH t AS ( UPDATE test SET val = 1 RETURNING id ) 
DELETE FROM test WHERE id IN ( SELECT id FROM t);

Result:
DELETE 0

Question:
Why DELETE did not find any rows to delete?

PostgreSql version 9.2.1
Transaction isolation = read commited

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    2026-06-15T16:22:12+00:00Added an answer on June 15, 2026 at 4:22 pm

    I suspect it has something to do with this line in the docs –

    The primary query and the WITH queries are all (notionally) executed
    at the same time. This implies that the effects of a data-modifying
    statement in WITH cannot be seen from other parts of the query, other
    than by reading its RETURNING output. If two such data-modifying
    statements attempt to modify the same row, the results are
    unspecified.

    While I would think the ID would be available since it isn’t changing in the WITH subquery, there could be something going on with row visibility. The term “unspecified” is pretty vague, this may really be a question for the postgres list so that one of the gurus can have a crack at it…

    EDIT: To provide slightly more information, I also tried replacing DELETE with SELECT *, and this returned the expected rows. My immediate reaction was that if it can find the rows to return them, it should be able to find them to delete them. But if I think about it more, this test supports the quote, in that a data-modifying statement paired with a non-data-modifying statement produces the expected results, whereas two data-modifying statements produce unexpected results.

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