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Asked: May 25, 20262026-05-25T02:50:07+00:00 2026-05-25T02:50:07+00:00

Let’s say we have a (InnoDB) table associations in a MySQL-Database which has the

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Let’s say we have a (InnoDB) table associations in a MySQL-Database which has the following structure:

CREATE TABLE `associations` (
      `id` int(11) NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
  `fk_id_1` int(11) NOT NULL,
  `fk_id_2` int(11) NOT NULL,
  `fk_id_3` int(11) DEFAULT NULL,
      PRIMARY KEY (`id`),
  UNIQUE KEY `some_unique_constraint` (`fk_id_1`,`fk_id_2`),
  KEY `fk_id_2_INDEX` (`fk_id_2`),
  KEY `fk_id_3_INDEX` (`fk_id_3`),
) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_bin$$

There are jumps in the column id (I know this is an issue of how the autoincremented value is generated while multiple threads try to get one). Since no other table is using the column id as a reference I plan to drop the column id and to create it again, hopefully the counting holes will be gone. I backed up my database and tested that. The result was a little confusing. The order of the rows seemed to have changed. If I am not mistaken the order is first by fk_id_1 then fk_id_2 then fk_id_3.

Is this the natural order in which MySQL sets the table, when assignung an new generated autoincrement key to the rows?

Is there more I should know, that happened during this process?

The reason, why I need to know about this is that I need to make the column id useful for another task I intend to accomplish where gaps are a no go.

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    2026-05-25T02:50:08+00:00Added an answer on May 25, 2026 at 2:50 am

    There is no natural order to a table in any mainstream RDBS.

    Only the outermost ORDER BY in a SELECT statement will guarantee the order of results.

    If you want “order”:

    • create a new table
    • INSERT..SELECT..ORDER BY fk_id_1, fk_id_2, fk_id_3
    • Drop old table
    • Rename new table

    Or live with gaps… OCD isn’t good for developers

    Edit:

    Question says “no dependency” on this value but turns out there is.

    If gaps are not allowed then don’t use autonumber and use fk_id_1, fk_id_2, fk_id_3 as your key, with a ROW_NUMBER emulation. Or code your downstream to deal with gaps.

    Autonumbers will have gaps: immutable fact of life.

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