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Asked: May 14, 20262026-05-14T17:01:04+00:00 2026-05-14T17:01:04+00:00

Ruby has conditional initialization. Apparently, Java does not or does it? I try to

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Ruby has conditional initialization. Apparently, Java does not or does it? I try to write more succintly, to limit the range as small as possible.

import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

public class InitFor{

        public static void main(String[] args){
                for(int i=7,k=999;i+((String h="hello").size())<10;i++){}

                System.out.println("It should be: hello = "+h);

        }
}

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InitFor.java:8: ')' expected
  for(int i=7,k=999;i+((String h="hello").size())<10;i++){}
                              ^

Puzzles

  1. Is it possible to assign a value to an declared value in while-loop? YES code1
  2. Assignment in for-loop conditional? YES code2
  3. conditional init NO
  4. Can you assign different types of values in loops? YES in a reply
  5. Some rule for initialization inside loops? Declare outside to access values later, what about init? (?)

1. CODE

import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

public class InitFor{
        public static void main(String[] args){
                int k=5;
                while((k=(k%3)+1)!=1){
                        System.out.println(k);
                }
                //PRINTs only 3
        }
}

2. CODE

import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

public class InitFor{

        public static void main(String[] args){
                int k=5;
                for(;(k=(k%3)+1)!=1;){
                        System.out.println(k);
                }
                //PRINTs only 3
                System.out.println(k); 
                // WHY DOES IT PRINT 1? Assign in for-loop!
        }
}

Part of the Original problem with many different kind of assignments and initializations — 100lines of code in one-liner

for(int t=0,size=(File[] fs=((File f=f.getParentFile()).listFiles(filt))).size();fs==null;t++){if(t>maxDepth){throw new Exception("No dir to read");}}
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    2026-05-14T17:01:05+00:00Added an answer on May 14, 2026 at 5:01 pm

    I think you are confusing assignment with declaration. You could do

    public static void main(String[] args){
        String h = null;
        for(int i=7,k=999;i+((h="hello").size())<10;i++){}
    
        System.out.println("It should be: hello = "+h);
    }
    

    the =’s operator is right associative and sets the first argument to the second argument and evaluates to the first argument, so something like

    a = b = c = 4
    

    is the same as

    (a = (b = (c = 4)))
    

    which sets c to 4, b to c (now 4) and a to b (now also 4)

    your one line of code could be (reformatted for clarity)

    File[] fs=null;                                                                            
    File f= ??? ; //you never initialize f in the for loop, you need a starting value  
    int t, size;                                                                               
    
    for (t=0,size=(fs=((f=f.getParentFile()).listFiles(filt))).size();      
         fs==null;                                                                             
         t++) {
           if(t>maxDepth) {throw new Exception("No dir to read");}
         }
    }
    

    EDIT – (though that’s really ugly code and if you checked it in on my project I’d be telling you to rewrite it ASAP)

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