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Asked: May 31, 20262026-05-31T11:42:52+00:00 2026-05-31T11:42:52+00:00

Standard convex hull algorithms will not work with (longitude, latitude)-points, because standard algorithms assume

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Standard convex hull algorithms will not work with (longitude, latitude)-points, because standard algorithms assume you want the hull of a set of Cartesian points. Latitude-longitude points are not Cartesian, because longitude “wraps around” at the anti-meridian (+/- 180 degrees). I.e., two degrees east of longitude 179 is -179.

So if your set of points happens to straddle the anti-meridian, you will compute spurious hulls that stretch all the way around the world incorrectly.

Any suggestions for tricks I could apply with a standard convex hull algorithm to correct for this, or pointers to proper “geospherical” hull algorithms?

Now that I think on it, there are more interesting cases to consider than straddling the anti-merdian. Consider a “band” of points that encircle the earth — its convex hull would have no east/west bounds. Or even further, what is the convex hull of {(0,0), (0, 90), (0, -90), (90, 0), (-90, 0), (180, 0)}? — it would seem to contain the entire surface of the earth, so which points are on its perimeter?

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    2026-05-31T11:42:54+00:00Added an answer on May 31, 2026 at 11:42 am

    Standard convex hull algorithms are not defeated by the wrapping-around of the coordinates on the surface of the Earth but by a more fundamental problem. The surface of a sphere (let’s forget the not-quite-sphericity of the Earth) is not a Euclidean space so Euclidean geometry doesn’t work, and convex hull routines which assume that the underlying space is Euclidean (show me one which doesn’t, please) won’t work.

    The surface of the sphere conforms to the concepts of an elliptic geometry where lines are great circles and antipodal points are considered the same point. You’ve already started to experience the issues arising from trying to apply a Euclidean concept of convexity to an elliptic space.

    One approach open to you would be to adopt the definitions of geodesic convexity and implement a geodesic convex hull routine. That looks quite hairy. And it may not produce results which conform to your (generally Euclidean) expectations. In many cases, for 3 arbitrary points, the convex hull turns out to be the entire surface of the sphere.

    Another approach, one adopted by navigators and cartographers through the ages, would be to project part of the surface of the sphere (a part containing all your points) into Euclidean space (which is the subject of map projections and I won’t bother you with references to the extensive literature thereon) and to figure out the convex hull of the projected points. Project the area you are interested in onto the plane and adjust the coordinates so that they do not wrap around; for example, if you were interested in France you might adjust all longitudes by adding 30deg so that the whole country was coordinated by +ve numbers.

    While I’m writing, the idea proposed in @Li-aung Yip’s answer, of using a 3D convex hull algorithm, strikes me as misguided. The 3D convex hull of the set of surface points will include points, edges and faces which lie inside the sphere. These literally do not exist on the 2D surface of the sphere and only change your difficulties from wrestling with the not-quite-right concept in 2D to quite-wrong in 3D. Further, I learned from the Wikipedia article I referenced that a closed hemisphere (ie one which includes its ‘equator’) is not convex in the geometry of the surface of the sphere.

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