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Asked: May 20, 20262026-05-20T07:53:23+00:00 2026-05-20T07:53:23+00:00

This is something that has always bothered me. Wouldnt it make more sense to

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This is something that has always bothered me. Wouldnt it make more sense to have the FROM clause come before the SELECT? Whenever Im writing sql, especially with joins, I always figure out the FROM clause first and then write the SELECT.

Plus, putting the FROM first would allow for better intellisense inside the editor.

Does anyone know what the reasoning was to have SELECT come first? Am I only one who is bothered by this?

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    2026-05-20T07:53:24+00:00Added an answer on May 20, 2026 at 7:53 am

    Yes it is strange and counterintuitive. Hugh Darwen theorises about how this state of affairs came about:

    Do you take SELECT-FROM-WHERE for
    granted, or do you, like me, find it
    rather curious that the System R team
    should have spurned the normal way of
    writing expressions of arbitrary
    complexity in favour of something
    utterly idiosyncratic and, one might
    say, rather dictatorial…?

    The fact is that in the 1960s various
    scripting languages (as we tend to
    call such things these days) had come
    about for the purposes of report
    generation, especially ad hoc report
    generation. We had one such language
    in the prerelational DBMS called
    Terminal Business System (TBS) that I
    worked on for IBM from 1969-77. Our
    language required the user to specify
    the required report in a series of
    steps that had to be given in the
    prescribed order
    …

    A somewhat similar but much more
    sophisticated report generator was
    later developed by IBM in the US, as
    part of a product called (prosaically,
    as was IBM’s style in those days)
    Generalized Information System
    (GIS)… when I first looked at SQL,
    my immediate reaction was “Oh no!
    Son of GIS? Please not that!” I
    might have been quite wrong about
    this. The similarity I perceived
    might have been illusory and even if
    it was not, I have no firm evidence
    that anybody in the System R team was
    familiar with GIS. The fact remains
    that the general style of a fixed
    order of actions was the order of the
    day at the time. I postulate that
    SQL’s SELECT-FROM-WHERE arose out of
    this fashion.

    From HAVING a Blunderful Time

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