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Asked: June 3, 20262026-06-03T15:14:38+00:00 2026-06-03T15:14:38+00:00

This may be super easy but I can’t find any clear statement about it

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This may be super easy but I can’t find any clear statement about it in JPA specs. If I have a List-based relationship without @OrderBy annotation, e.g:

@OneToMany
List<Child> children;

then what will be order of this list elements in Java? It seems reasonable that this will be order of corresponding records in Child table or entries in intermetiate table if it’s many to many, but is that a guaranteed behavior of JPA providers?

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    2026-06-03T15:14:39+00:00Added an answer on June 3, 2026 at 3:14 pm

    Order is not guaranteed by the specification as far as I know. @OrderBy is the way to go if you depend on the order.

    EDIT: Quote from JPA 1.0 spec:

    Portable applications should not expect the order of lists to be maintained across persistence contexts unless the OrderBy construct is used and the modifications to the list observe the specified ordering. The order is not otherwise persistent.

    (Page 19, Footnote [4])

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