We’re currently using Visual Source Safe and BugNet and looking to migrate up and away from VSS. I’ve been pushing for either SVN ( a) we’re an ASP.NET shop, b) DCVS is not an option – no matter how much I like Hg 😉 or TFS. Well we finally got a new dev server, so I talked the boss into installing TFS on it (30 day trial). In the meantime, we had started experimenting with FogBugz. We really like FogBugz for about 80% of what we want to do, and the other 20% is probably stuff that we don’t know what we want.
I’m pushing for TFS because it allows for IDE integrated (mostly) everything.
He’s pushing for FogBugz because he can group tasks by customer and then project and manage everything from one dashboard. (which means I lose most of my IDE integration – no huge loss I agree)
Does TFS support a single dashboard that would span all our solutions (in this case each solution is a full app that we sell to a vertical market client) and let us assign workitems to each solution-spanning-group?
So for instance I think we envision something like this:
PROJECT1 – Bugtracker and workitems
PROJECT2 – Bugtracker and workitems
PROJECT3 – Bugtracker and workitems
CUSTOMER1 – Deployment schedules, required features, specific notes (Uses PROJECT1, PROJECT2)
CUSTOMER2 – Deployment schedules, required features, specific notes (Uses PROJECT2, PROJECT3)
CUSTOMER3 – Deployment schedules, required features, specific notes (Uses PROJECT1, PROJECT3)
Hopefully that makes sense. naturally it’s more complicated than this but I think I’ve given the details enough to paint a picture.
I offered the option of creating dummy projects per customer but he doesn’t like that and it doesn’t really give us the single dashboard view that we’re hoping to end up with (and that FogBugz as we’ve sorta implmented things does do now).
Has anyone got a good suggestion on a management app that would accomplish what both of us want?
EDIT: since I got some good responses (albeit not what I wanted) I’m going to close this for now. However, I think this is something that would be a good thirdparty market and/or a feature in an upcoming TF release. Feel free to post with more ideas if you come across this later.
TFS allows you to have multiple Team Projects. Each is effectively a root folder for source control. However, you can move files/folders between projects in source control, and the Work Items are global (shared across all Team Projects). For Work Items all the projects do is provide a level at which you can filter out work items (so you look at bugs only for this project, etc).
So Team Projects allow you to nicely compartmentalise your projects, but they are only virtual compartments, with few limitations on moving items between those compartments.
The only problem I’ve found with multiple Team Projects is that you have to branch a folder (and cannot branch a Team Project) so if you wish to make a branch that spans several projects you have to have several branches, which means severwal workspace mappings and several merges for each operation.
For customers we simply added a custom “customer” field to our work items that allowed us to relate a work item to a spacific customer.
When you look at work items you can then apply SQL-like filtering (e.g. TeamProject=@Project AND Customer=”BiggsAndCo” AND WorkItemType=”Bug” would find all the bugs reported by BiggsAndCo in the current TeamProject)
There are a lot of third party add-ins for VSTS to enhance the TFS experience (thankfully, as raw TFS provides very basic and clumsy UI), and you can use the API to write your own tools to query the TFS database too, so you shouldn’t have too much of a problem getting a dashboard thta you find useful. You’ll need to do some searches to see if the solutions out there match your requirements though.