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Asked: May 24, 20262026-05-24T01:37:13+00:00 2026-05-24T01:37:13+00:00

Why does hibernate do a select before saving an object? I can’t find useful

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Why does hibernate do a select before saving an object?

I can’t find useful information on internet. Is this normal behavior before every save? I found this topic, select Query Run for hibernateTemplate.save() – save, but I do not find this answer “definitive”. I mean, do we have to use versioning if i want to avoid this select before saving each object?

I would appreciate all the explanations or links.

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    2026-05-24T01:37:14+00:00Added an answer on May 24, 2026 at 1:37 am

    I know you have answered your own question in the question’s comment, but just to summarise this here are some general points.

    Just to clarify, NHibernate uses ‘save’ as in ‘SQL INSERT’ and ‘update’ as in ‘SQL UPDATE’.

    I know of these common scenarios when NHibernate will fetch an object implicitly (no explicit use of s.Update) from the db before persisting it:

    1. On session_flush/transaction_commit (depending on settings) when in the mapping select-before-update is set to “true”;
    2. When SaveOrUpdate is used and the identifier of the instance has a value which suggests it exists in the db;
    3. Before s.Delete.

    As with your example, this may not be obvious when parent-child objects are used (but simple rules stay the same) as it may not be obvious from the code that children will be fetched.

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