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Asked: May 12, 20262026-05-12T18:52:22+00:00 2026-05-12T18:52:22+00:00

Why does IDLE handle one symbol correctly but not another? >>> e = ‘€’

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Why does IDLE handle one symbol correctly but not another?

>>> e = '€'
>>> print unichr(ord(e))
     # looks like a very thin rectangle on my system.
>>> p = '£'
>>> print unichr(ord(p))
£
>>> ord(e)
128
>>> ord(p)
163

I tried adding various # coding lines, but that didn’t help.

EDIT: browser should be UTF-8, else this will look rather strange

EDIT 2: On my system, the euro char is displayed correctly on line 1, but not in the print line. The pound char is displayed correctly both places.

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    2026-05-12T18:52:22+00:00Added an answer on May 12, 2026 at 6:52 pm

    The answer depends what encoding the IDLE REPL is using. You should be more explicit about what’s actually unicode text, and what’s a byte sequence. Meditate on this example:

    # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
    c = u'€'
    print type(c)
    for b in c.encode('utf-8'):
        print ord(b)
    
    c = '€'
    print type(c)
    for b in c:
        print ord(b)
    

    EDIT:

    As for IDLE, it’s kind of borken, and needs to be patched to work correctly.

    IDLE 1.2.2      
    >>> c = u'€'
    >>> ord(c)
    128
    >>> c.encode('utf-8')
    '\xc2\x80'
    >>> c
    u'\x80'
    >>> print c
    [the box thingy]
    
    
    >>> c = u'\u20ac'
    >>> ord(c)
    8364
    >>> c.encode('utf-8')
    '\xe2\x82\xac'
    >>> c
    u'\u20ac'
    >>> print c
    €
    

    In the first session, by the time the € is interpreted, it has already been mis-encoded, and is unrecoverable.

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