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Asked: May 20, 20262026-05-20T00:24:16+00:00 2026-05-20T00:24:16+00:00

I have read many posts about this now but I do not still understand

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I have read many posts about this now but I do not still understand it. I would appriciate an answer rather than a link because I probably already have read it.

if (self = [super init]) {

}

return self;

When I am calling the [super init] I know I am calling the method on “self”(the objects address) but I am starting the “method-search” in the superclass. When this returns I assign the object type id to self…This is where I am getting lost.

Am I assigning “self” as an initialized object up to the point of the superclass to self..?

I understand that I am doing this check to stop the initializing if the superclass implementation of the initializer returns nil however I dont understand what I am assinging to self….I thought self was an address to the current object in memory.

Thanks in advance

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    2026-05-20T00:24:17+00:00Added an answer on May 20, 2026 at 12:24 am

    The assignment has always seemed a bit hacky to me. Its main point is that the superclass might want to return some other instance than the one that was initially allocated:

    id foo = [[Foo alloc] init];
    
    @interface Foo : SuperFoo {…}
    @implementation Foo
    
    - (id) init
    {
        self = [super init];
        if (!self)
            …;
        return self;
    }
    
    @interface SuperFoo : NSObject {…}
    @implementation SuperFoo
    
    - (id) init
    {
        [self release];
        return [OtherClass alloc];
    }
    

    This is crazy indeed, but the fact is that [super init] might return an object different from the previous self. See Mike Ash’s blog post, that should make things super clear.

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